tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post2183968272366017641..comments2024-03-25T00:30:44.421-07:00Comments on Veterinarians Behaving Badly: Liabilitywebhillhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05938934194973454729noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-31463652242603640892012-04-14T00:15:40.976-07:002012-04-14T00:15:40.976-07:00As a pet owner, I prefer to let professionals rest...As a pet owner, I prefer to let professionals restrain my pet- for just the reason you describe. Unfortunately, the vet or tech doesn't always think that's a good idea and wants me to do it. Last week I had 2 cats at the vet. After placing the first cat on the table, I stepped back to let the tech do her thing. She asked me to step back up and restrain my cat, which I did without any problem. The other cat, a foster who I had not been to the vet with before, was up next. He was not nearly as calm as the first, and attempted to bite/scratch me. I was able to scruff and restrain the poor boy, and thankfully wasn't injured. <br /><br />Later, when we were getting ready to leave, they decided to weigh the unhappy foster again. I offered to accompany them, but they politely refused. Okay, no problem. A minute later the tech comes out to the waiting room and asks my friend or I to go back and help weigh the cat. My friend went, as I was taking care of the bill. Funnily enough, my friend had no problem handling the cat despite having met the cat that same day! I plan to use a different vet next time, one that is capable of weighing a cat without the owner's assistance.Rebecca Rosenburghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14437174673777091005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-76772096269640459352012-03-23T07:53:57.788-07:002012-03-23T07:53:57.788-07:00Useful information ..I am very happy to read this ...Useful information ..I am very happy to read this article..thanks for giving us this useful information. Fantastic walk - through. I appreciate this post. <a href="http://publicliabilityinsurance4u.com/" rel="nofollow">public liability insurance quote</a>David bonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17644957720709026642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-70594850396619167382012-02-20T07:15:57.311-08:002012-02-20T07:15:57.311-08:00I didn't know you could get cat muzzles! Are t...I didn't know you could get cat muzzles! Are there rodent muzzles too?Time-Outhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01263202743983987182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-35811662144372722262012-02-01T07:54:40.946-08:002012-02-01T07:54:40.946-08:00I have a lot of love for the clients who come in a...I have a lot of love for the clients who come in and, before even putting the dog on the table, tell me I should muzzle him/her to be safe. <br />Much less love for the MULTIPLE clients who bring in an unwell animal (often cats for some reason), and when I am up close and personal with Fluffy mid-exam, tell me that "I know he's sick because if he felt like himself he'd have taken a chunk out of you by now!"<br />It doesn't matter how poorly and dull your pet is right now, if you know s/he is unpredictable and could bite or claw someone, tell me about the danger at the start so I can avoid it and keep you from getting damaged!Baileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16410105943109679217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-46324650659579108672012-01-29T21:00:47.135-08:002012-01-29T21:00:47.135-08:00Thank you all for the input. I'm glad to know ...Thank you all for the input. I'm glad to know that the vet wasn't doing something as unusual as I had perceived. While I learned a lot working at the shelter, I fully realize I don't know everything about anything. :-) I'm usually the client who asks questions and wants to understand what's happening and why. I've now found a vet hospital whose vets across the board are communicative and respectful, and often invite me into the back to see ultrasounds and the like because they realize that I'm interested It's a good match.Aimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10999989380011744372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-46929658947690571622012-01-29T15:52:31.402-08:002012-01-29T15:52:31.402-08:00"And you don't have to sedate my horse, h..."And you don't have to sedate my horse, he don't kick Doc...." its tough all over.OLiNViLLEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09790486012857765874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-60575400605602993982012-01-28T19:54:33.266-08:002012-01-28T19:54:33.266-08:00$22K, eh? "Helping" the vet might become...$22K, eh? "Helping" the vet might become the new "Swoop & Squat" for the grifter with Fluffy in tow.NewportVethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790094474269985639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-30633473170329431682012-01-28T19:46:58.723-08:002012-01-28T19:46:58.723-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.NewportVethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00790094474269985639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-83697388318804049462012-01-28T17:27:43.991-08:002012-01-28T17:27:43.991-08:00I too prefer jugular veins for feline phlebotomy. ...I too prefer jugular veins for feline phlebotomy. If I'm doing it in the room with a client, though, I'll typically use a medial saphenous with a 22 ga butterfly & let the vacutainers fill to draw.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01822266062611909215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-75573286914738818212012-01-28T16:54:12.342-08:002012-01-28T16:54:12.342-08:00I would never use the front leg of a cat for blood...I would never use the front leg of a cat for blood draw. Usually jugular is best but for those frightened or fractious kitties I have fair success with a rear leg (medial saphenous)vetbabe2003https://www.blogger.com/profile/07659177613318641550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-44026353405356889962012-01-28T16:01:07.020-08:002012-01-28T16:01:07.020-08:00Then there are the clients that can't seem to ...Then there are the clients that can't seem to stop speaking to the pet. Unfortunately they say the wrong thing, speak too fast and use a tone that stresses the pet further. <br /><br />When you are trying to calm your pet, calm yourself first. If you must say anything please speak slowly, in a calmer (usually lower) tone and say 'just relax'. These are words your pet won't be too familiar with and if you say them slowly and calmly it can help settle them. <br /><br />If you speak fast, in a high pitched voice your pet will get more upset as they don't understand the words but the speed and tone suggest danger to them.brneyes213https://www.blogger.com/profile/02027004144095739318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-91580159118117001522012-01-28T09:55:51.404-08:002012-01-28T09:55:51.404-08:00Ditto.
Getting even 3 cc of blood from most cat&#...Ditto.<br /><br />Getting even 3 cc of blood from most cat's arms is an exercise in futility....it invariably clots due to the time involved. Cats platelets just love to clump & the longer it takes to get out an adequate sample the more likely clumping will occur.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-63145919128203878242012-01-28T08:46:00.021-08:002012-01-28T08:46:00.021-08:00The jugular is the preferred place to get blood in...The jugular is the preferred place to get blood in a cat because the size of the "arm vein" is small enough that it is very hard to get enough blood for a sample. Also, the time it takes for enough blood to flow out of the tiny vein can be enough time to have a clot form...and then the pressure used to draw out the blood sample can cause issue with the quality of the sample.<br /><br />So, many vets will choose to get blood from the jugular rather than the forearm.SMHDVMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631495097000738780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-56554478620778525852012-01-27T20:06:08.989-08:002012-01-27T20:06:08.989-08:00What really bugs me is the owner who, eventually, ...What really bugs me is the owner who, eventually, grudging lets you restrain their pet, but still insists on having some physical contact with it, and when you try to maneuver your body to block said contact, they rub or scratch YOU instead! It was one of my biggest pet peeves. Or they hold their fingers in front of their pets mouth and say "Mommy knows it hurts, here, you can bite mommy!"Frustrated RVThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05302598309147994971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-55737810529778473652012-01-27T19:33:30.265-08:002012-01-27T19:33:30.265-08:00I'm generally happy either way, as a patient. ...I'm generally happy either way, as a patient. I did vet tech work in a shelter (yes I realize this is not the same as being an actual vet tech!) so I understand the holds and can generally help restrain my monsters. That said, I always offer, and if the bet declines I get the eff out of the way and stay in kitty's field of vision unless it antagonizes kitty, in which case I step out. <br /><br />The only time this didn't work was with a vet who for god only knows what reason wanted to take blood from kitty's jugular vein rather than his arm. He got out the clippers, cat went batshit, and we all got clawed and bitten. I suggested we might try the "wet his arm with alcohol and poke him in that vein" method, vet scoffed and went to clipper the foreleg. <br /><br />I did not return to said vet.Aimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10999989380011744372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-44676388356639525082012-01-27T19:04:37.602-08:002012-01-27T19:04:37.602-08:00I admit I've handled my dog (and my cat) at th...I admit I've handled my dog (and my cat) at the vet, but most of the time, I was asked if I could or wanted to do it. The one time my cat injured me wasn't very serious, and they called in a tech to hold him the rest of the time.<br /><br />I have no problems letting techs hold my animals, though, as long as they aren't stressing him. Grabbing his leash, dragging him across the floor and pinning him to the ground with your body... I take issue with that. This is the same dog my current vet said was so good she'd never had a large dog (80 lbs) that she could examine by herself.rotc_spazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10799192072589972537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-17711989919615684972012-01-27T15:26:34.218-08:002012-01-27T15:26:34.218-08:00I have a cat from h*ll (but only at the vets) and ...I have a cat from h*ll (but only at the vets) and I don't ever offer or want to help hold him. Because he WILL bite or class anyone in reach. Even after being drugged they handle him with leather gloves and a net like thing. This is after he actually got away from the vet tech and out of a muzzle a couple of times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-91448563314754419512012-01-27T14:10:30.075-08:002012-01-27T14:10:30.075-08:00Yep, one reason not to let them hold: they might g...Yep, one reason not to let them hold: they might get bitten. Another reason: *I* might get bitten. I don't want to get sued, but I sure as hell cannot afford to lose my hands either.SMHDVMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631495097000738780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-19818379637897679172012-01-27T13:36:26.961-08:002012-01-27T13:36:26.961-08:00Paging Dr. Pol!!!Paging Dr. Pol!!!Jennahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15537103195465319250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-20154999952252381162012-01-27T12:49:34.309-08:002012-01-27T12:49:34.309-08:00I'll typically use the line that if my tech ho...I'll typically use the line that if my tech holds your pet he/she will be mad at us and when we're done he/she gets back to you where she's "safe"Daddy DVMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02634854474318527073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-67387334075556621452012-01-27T11:10:28.540-08:002012-01-27T11:10:28.540-08:00I tend to use the "Fluffy may try to bite me ...I tend to use the "Fluffy may try to bite me and get your hand instead" line when they insist their pet would never bite them. My own cat bit me when I was holding it while my tech tried to shave a potty trail, and that was at home, without all the stress of a vet visit.Lisa Frederickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18141217747940784559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-17632609552960952052012-01-27T07:57:04.138-08:002012-01-27T07:57:04.138-08:00Guilty as well - with a capital G...I KNOW that th...Guilty as well - with a capital G...I KNOW that the restraints that the techs use are tested and safe, but it "hurts" me to see my pet "stressed" by a restraining hold...<br /><br />There was a time when my 6 year old was the only one who could get his cat out of the carrier, onto the table, and examined. (this was the cat that adopted the kid the day that we brought the baby home from the hospital - wouldn't leave his side except to use the litter box or eat). We both objected when the tech suggested that the cat be sedated for the exam...Stubble removed the cat from the carrier, got said cat onto the table and held the cat's front quarters while the doctor examined and did shots.<br />In my defense, I had no idea what kind of liability that the doctor was risking...I figured it was either "bite my kid" or "bite the tech" and I would have felt MUCH worse if the cat's victim was the tech rather than the kid that the cat slept with every night...<br /><br />oops. Sorry.Christie Crittershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17409348100826092353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-14342652021138525382012-01-27T07:12:07.974-08:002012-01-27T07:12:07.974-08:00Have to say - I had a cat that would lunge through...Have to say - I had a cat that would lunge through the bars of the cage to scratch and attack anyone who came near her at the vet office. But I could handle her. Until she bit me in a scenario you just described. I ended up on IV antibiotics. I felt sorry for the vet, and the cat and paid the bill.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-62222839135257974592012-01-27T06:53:23.513-08:002012-01-27T06:53:23.513-08:00I'm so guilty of this - I follow directions, b...I'm so guilty of this - I follow directions, but usually I foolishly think I'm helping. Then while the tech and dr are working with my pup I'm like, Oh, duh, liability.<br />Thanks to you and all vets for being patient when we're stupid and watching out for us!Jackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11182741108379808026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4990890778229196792.post-72534584740984373822012-01-27T05:55:34.621-08:002012-01-27T05:55:34.621-08:00Clients think the Pet ER is expensive now.....just...Clients think the Pet ER is expensive now.....just wait till they tack on the extra fees for added liability. sigh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com